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Hotfix 0.13.1

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Changes

Reworked/Expanded Focus Trees

  • Bulgaria
  • Sichuan

New Events

  • Romania
  • Fengtian
  • League of Eight Provinces
  • Qing

New Custom Country Paths

  • Fengtian
  • Belgrade Pact
  • Romania

GFX

  • Replaced Bulgarian flag’s coat of arms with one the monarchy actually used
  • New Portraits:
  • Germany: Eberhard von Mackensen, Albert Kesselring, August von Mackensen, Gerd von Rundstedt, Gotthard Heinrici, Rupprecht von Bayern, Heinz Guderian, Walter Model, Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb, Wilhelm III (General Variant), Erich Raeder, Ewald Kleist, Friedrich Paulus, Hermann Boehm, Erwin von Witzleben, Erich von Manstein, Erich Hoepner, Franz von Papen, Georg Kuchler, Günther Lütjens, Lothar Arnauld Periere, Rudolf Rocker, Wilhelm Souchon, Gustav Krupp, Karl Doenitz, Gunther Kluge, Hermann Hoth, Wilhelm Pieck
  • Others: Ali Kelmendi (ALB), Ahmet Zogu (ALB), Jawaharlal Nehru (BHC), Georgi Dimitrov (BUL), Reginald Hildyard (CAF), Carlos Campo (CHL), Yang Yuting (FNG), Asgeir Asgeirsson (ICE), Ta Thu Thau (INC), Eoin O’Duffy (IRE), Franz Ritter von Epp (MAF), Theodor von Hippel (MAF), Ferdinand Schorner (MAF), Guy Halifax (SAF), Thomas Dewey (USA)

Mapping

  • Saint Louis in Senegal is now in the right place
  • Volgograd state and VP has been renamed to Tsaritsyn from the start
  • Fixed the urban terrain of Tashkent being on the wrong place

Miscellaneous

  • Bulgaria now has a small sub-tree for when it has a SocCon government under Aleksandar Stamboliyski (primarily occurring if/when it is a Serbian puppet, but not restricted to that). The chain for the merger with Serbia is now triggered by a focus.
  • If Bulgaria goes SocDem or MarkLib after the Balkan War, the possibility of an Absolutist or Narrow Socialist coup is now triggered by a separate event, and this is under player control (no more relying on RNG for it to occur).
  • If Bulgaria accepts the Balkan War loss event, its conscription and economy laws are immediately moved to minimum. This will force it to demobilize, at least for a while.
  • Italy and Two Sicilies can now join Austria’s sphere even once they merge with the Reichspakt during WK2 (they will leave the faction with Austria when it leaves).
  • The Treaty of Budapest chain has been expanded. Now, if Germany still exists, Austria can appeal to them for intervention at the outset of the chain. If Germany agrees, they will intervene in the peace talks in exchange for Austria immediately joining the Reichspakt (permanently). This means any country not accepting peace will find themselves at war with Germany, and Germany also prevents Austrian core territories (such as Istria, Slovenia, and South Tyrol) from being annexed. If Germany does not intervene, Austria can lose all those states and their faction will be removed for good.
  • Should Austria be conquered or lose its faction through the Treaty of Budapest, Italy will be able to join the Reichspakt (in this instance, this also applies to a National Populist Italy).
  • Added a peace conference rule so Russia will tend to stay out of Western Europe
  • Added world tension for the collapse of the LEP and Germany, as well as one for the Sino-Japanese war
  • Rewrote Harry Truman’s bio
  • Slightly reduced the Black Monday nerfs for Germany
  • Japan now actually loses SocCon popularity if the Seiyukai loses its majority.
  • Added city fall events for Tokyo, Manila, Vladivostok and Dublin
  • Added annexation mission for the Legation Cities. The releasing nation now gets a seat on the Council, so now anybody can be on it.
  • Removed syndicalist Gold Coast being called Golden Pact
  • Gave Montenegro party names
  • Enhanced some Ireland events
  • Added leader descriptions for Romanian head of states
  • Added a dozen new events for Romania.
  • Added a research slot to Romanian army tree.
  • Added a new “Confederated State” subject level for Italian subjects of either Two Sicilies or Sardinia when they create the Italian Confederation, offering more benefits to the overlord than regular puppets
  • Ethiopia now starts with claims on already-owned Eritrean lands
  • Paraguay starts the game with a small division limit bonus
  • Nejd and Jabal Shamar now receive a division limit bonus while fighting their war against each other
  • Arabia now receives a division limit bonus as part of its ‘Desert Logistics’ national idea
  • Russia now fully uses the compliance system for gaining cores on conquered lands
  • Post-MAF armies have been overhauled
  • Added the Phalanstere Internationale as a economic sphere in the diplomacy tab
  • Albania can no longer pull Romania or Bulgaria into its wars
  • Baoding Sichuan can now ally with the Left KMT
  • Ottoman Minister list got reworked in preparation for their eventual implementation (say goodbye to Mustafa Kemal for now as CoS, for he will come back later as HoG)
  • Added event warnings for tags, and their overlords if puppeted, soon to be attacked by the Fengtian Government, Qing/Zhili, and the LEP. These warnings will be received sooner if a decryption advantage is possessed over the aggressor tag, or if decryption progress has been started against them (with LaR). Exceptions were left for explicit sneak-attacks, or where other warnings exist.
  • Added game rules for Fengtian’s overall obedience or assertiveness. If obedient, Fengtian will still attempt to balance its internal factions, and may become rowdy, but should not declare war. Likewise if assertive it will still occasionally take pro-Japanese decisions, but will have a far higher chance to declare war against Japan.
  • Renamed Huangshan to Huizhou, and Huizhou to Huiyang.
  • Qing can now use its “integrate faction members” decision more than once, should qualifying tags remain.
  • Added a small dispersed industry tech boost to Restored Qing’s NCERA rural development focus.

Fixes

Notable Fixes

  • Fixed Austria never releasing Hungary locking itself out of its paths
  • Austria no longer peaces out with the Belgrade Pact when Germany falls

Other Fixes

  • Fixed a crash bug caused by a PRF event picture
  • Bulgaria can no longer reconcile twice with the same country.
  • BUL reconciliation decision now removes negative Belgrade Pact opinion modifiers
  • The Treaty of Budapest will now release any Italian countries in Austria’s faction prior to peace being made, so war will continue with them
  • Fixed some issues with countries improperly peacing out with Austria if it’s part of the Reichspakt when Germany falls
  • Brazil will no longer capitulate too easily
  • Serbia no longer gets a claim on Western Salonica at the Balkan War outset
  • The ISAC tech sharing icon now no longer says IEDC
  • Wallonia can no longer go multiple political routes as a puppet
  • Katanga now keeps its current government type when puppeted by Portugal
  • Norway will now automatically annex states it claims from focuses if they’re owned by puppets
  • Qing can now actually take the admittedly inferior Baili plan
  • Fixed Liu Xiang being able to create a faction when already allied.
  • Fixed Fengtian not leaving Japan's faction when revolting.
  • Fixed Sichuan being able to reach negative opium spread values.
  • Fengtian should now always warn targets for war
  • Honduras is no longer stuck repeating its political turmoil event over and over
  • Fixed Siam losing its admirals in the civil war.
  • Fixed Russia gaining 2000% stability.
  • Lithuania no longer calls its own cities by their Polish names.
  • Oman now has the war support to keep their starting extensive conscription law.
  • Fixed Chile not losing the Chilean-Argentinian War idea after their coup d’etat.
  • Fixed Transamur not breaking away from Japan when forming Russia.
  • Fixed Lithuania not peacing out properly when revolting.
  • Demanding Bessarabia now requires Russia to directly border Romania.
  • Fixed Ukraine being able to join the TI too early.
  • The United Kingdom choosing direct rule over Ireland won't make the annexation decision appear again
  • Fixed Serbia inviting itself to the 2nd Belgrade Congress.
  • Sweden's decisions to attack other countries will now cancel for the AI if the conditions change, such as Finland joining the Reichspakt
  • Fixed Montenegro’s adjective being Montenegrian
  • LEP can now fight Yiganduo and KMT rebels, and core Anqing
  • Formation of PNL now triggers from the Great Reunion event and not from Renew Pride focus.
  • Added a tooltip for Renew Pride explaining that it unlocks the coring decisions.
  • PNL will be founded regardless whether you complete Renew Pride.
  • Romanian post-unification focuses now say they only unlock after acquiring Transylvania, to make it clearer
  • Fixed woke stability malus Codreanu got for compromising.
  • Fixed bugs regarding ROM influence system.
  • Nerfed many ROM national spirits a bit, tweaked the post-war trees.
  • Canada’s french-related ideas will now disappear if Quebec is not owned
  • Russia no longer receives a claim on Cernauti when deciding to keep Bessarabia
  • Fixed Russian decision to attack Transamur for the instance where Transamur immediately folds and should be annexed
  • Burmese event chain now checks for AuthDem government to exist
  • Burma can no longer join in on Indochina’s war with Siam if it is a subject (of another country) or otherwise invalid for the war
  • Fixed the continuous focus box overlapping with parts of the PLC focus tree
  • Fixed the Russian Socialist Republic having a too low division limit
  • Fixed Don-Kuban having an endless Black Monday
  • Fixed all missing Sudwestafrika portraits
  • Fixed Austria not being able to release Hungary in the Pluralism path
  • Capitulated countries will no longer be annexed in peace conferences if random non-aligned third parties capitulate
  • Siam no longer loses its admirals if the civil war fires
  • Transamur will now break away from Japan when forming Russia
  • Fixed multiple broken game rules
  • Serbia no longer invites itself to the Belgrade Congress
  • Honduras will now break free from Nicaragua if the latter’s government is overthrown
  • Mongolia and Tibet can now be released properly after releasing China
  • Siam can now release Vietnam
  • Greater Germany can now no longer core Istria or Trentino through the annexation decisions
  • If the UK chooses direct rule over Ireland, the annexation decision will now not keep re-appearing
  • Removed the ability for the Patagonian Communists to get Juan Domingo Peron as a general

 

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Может потому, что в этой реальности японцы в еще большей экономической жопе, чем в нашей? 

Манчжурия также, как и в РИ сателлит; ДВР тоже сателлит, полный контроль Сахалина, частичный контроль Транссиба. Флот, как минимум на треть больше(по крупным кораблям наполовину больше).

Что я не увидел? Уточните, пожалуйста, где именно в показанном авторами раскладе, Вы видите высококачественный уровень ЖОПЫ, для японского развития? Скорее, данный эмоциональный негативно окрашенный эпитет, можно отнести к положению России, которая потеряла половину населения( авторы мода пишут для территорий России население в 90 миллионов человек),половину территорий и две трети экономики.

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  • CrazyZombie
    6 минут назад, Дон Андрон сказал:

    Манчжурия также, как и в РИ сателлит; ДВР тоже сателлит, полный контроль Сахалина, частичный контроль Транссиба. Флот, как минимум на треть больше(по крупным кораблям наполовину больше).

    Что я не увидел? Уточните, пожалуйста, где именно в показанном авторами раскладе, Вы видите высококачественный уровень ЖОПЫ, для японского развития? Скорее, данный эмоциональный негативно окрашенный эпитет, можно отнести к положению России, которая потеряла половину населения( авторы мода пишут для территорий России население в 90 миллионов человек),половину территорий и две трети экономики.

    У них с экономикой все не слава богу по условиям мода.

    Основной союзник и торговый партнер развалился на кучку доминионов и мятежную метрополию, экспансия в Китае ограничена интересами Германии, флот сам по себе денег не приносит, он их натурально жрет не в себя. Что я забыл... Ах да, ресурсы. Ресурсы, которых катастрофически не хватает. 

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    Ресурсы, которых катастрофически не хватает. 

    Аннексия Манчжурии, увеличившейся в полтора раза Монголии, ДВР, и всего Дальнего Востока вплоть до Байкала, решит большую часть нехватки ресурсов для Японии. Чем Керенский будет отбивать нападение 60-80 полнокровных японских дивизий при 80-процентной нехватке вооружения в армии?

    Кроме того, относительно близко территория Клики Ма, и развалившаяся Индия.

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  • SShredy

    Ну захватят они Китай, Сибирь и Индию, а удерживать они их как будут? Создать империю и управлять ею не одно и тоже, посмотрите на действия японцев в Азии и отношении к ним других азиатов.

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    Gorthauerr
    2 часа назад, Дон Андрон сказал:

     авторы мода пишут для территорий России население в 90 миллионов человек

    А вот это абсолютно антилогично и антиисторично.

    Если бы большевики не победили, как-минимум на подконтрольной Белым территории население бы было в 1.5-2 раза выше, чем в реальной истории.

    Потому что не было бы голодомора, массовых репрессий и ГУЛага, ломки Традиционного крестьянского уклада и крестьянства как класса через колено.

    Во время одного только подавления тамбовского восстания численность населения Тамбовской губернии уменьшилась вдвое; на 1920 год (по сравнению с 1914) численность башкир уменьшилась вдвое, с 1.5 млн. до 700 тысяч. Сельское население в РИ активно росло, с рождаемостью было все Ок, и если бы не коммунизм то население было значительно выше.

    PS. да и сохранись большой кусок свободной России, на территории РСФСР коммунисты тоже были бы просто вынуждены вести себя с народом мягче, следовательно и на подконтрольной им территории численность населения должна быть выше.

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  • simpleguy
    3 часа назад, Дон Андрон сказал:

    Тогда где точка бифуркации. Как в Кайзеррейхе появились Прибалтийские государства, независимые районы Белоруссии, Украины, Кубани, Кавказа, Туркестана?

    1917. Германия не начинает (снова) неограниченную подводную войну, США не вступает в войну... Конкретно то, о чем вы говорите - продукт немецкой интервенции в Гражданскую войну в 20 году. Украина, кстати, сначала была в сфере влияния Австрии.

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  • Дон Андрон
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    Ну захватят они Китай, Сибирь и Индию, а удерживать они их как будут? Создать империю и управлять ею не одно и тоже, посмотрите на действия японцев в Азии и отношении к ним других азиатов.

    В РИ, Япония планировала создать национальные военные силы в Индии, и режим подобный Манчжурии и Манчжоу-Го. Управлять будут они, японцы будут только получать ресурсы и рынок сбыта товаров.

    Цитата

    Если бы большевики не победили, как-минимум на подконтрольной Белым территории население бы было в 1.5-2 раза выше, чем в реальной истории.

    Вот эта история действительно АЛЬТЕРНАТИВНА... :madness:

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    Неурожай продолжился в 1892-м — он охватил полностью губернии Воронежскую, Курскую, Полтавскую, Самарскую, Тульскую, Харьковскую, Херсонскую и частично — Рязанскую, Саратовскую, Киевскую, Подольскую, Бессарабскую . Всего в период 1891-92 голодало 30 миллионов человек.

    Новый удар стихии случился в 1897-м и сказался в губерниях Воронежской, Калужской, Курской, Оренбургской, Орловской, Пензенской, Псковской, Рязанской, Ставропольской, Тамбовской, Тульской, Уфимской, Харьковской, в Области войска Донского и Акмолинской, частично затронул Подольскую и Киевскую губернии. На сей раз причины были различны: где-то засуха, где-то неблагоприятная зима, где-то нашествие насекомых-вредителей.Усугубил положение неурожай 1898-го, случившийся в 18 губерниях, преимущественно на Востоке и Юго-Востоке: в Вятской, Казанской, Пермской, Самарской, Саратовской, Симбирской, Уфимской, в меньшей степени — в Воронежской, Калужской, Курской, Нижегородской, Оренбургской, Орловской, Пензенской, Рязанской, Ставропольской, Тамбовской, Тульской . В 1897-98 голодало 27 миллионов человек.

    В 1901 случились очередная засуха (с середины мая до середины августа) с пожарами и, как следствие, недород, от которого пострадали 24 губернии и области Империи, однако «отнюдь не выходивший за обычные рамки». Годы с 1902 по 1904-й оказались благоприятны, впрочем, затем примерно столько же лет подряд не удались. Это объясняется общим аграрным кризисом, охватившим Европу в середине 1900-х.

    Летом 1905 определился недород в среднечернозёмных, приволжских, заволжских и восточных губерниях: Астраханской, Владимирской, Вологодской, Воронежской, Вятской, Казанской, Нижегородской, Орловской, Псковской, Рязанской, Самарской, Саратовской, Симбирской, Тамбовской, Тверской, Тульской, частично Херсонской. От неурожая пострадали в основном традиционно земледельческие районы, занимавшие, по официальным данным МВД, до 43% всех пахотных земель в России. Этот недород стал самым крупным с 1891-го.

    Виды на урожай 1906 года были отличными, однако — засуха с суховеями, затем, в сезон уборки, целый набор природных катаклизмов: проливные дожди, градобития, бури, а также нашествие вредных насекомых. «Неурожай оказался, несомненно, исключительным по размерам»: он затронул 49 губерний и областей Европейской и Азиатской России.

    Зима 1906-07 оказалась необычно суровой, весна наступила поздно, урожай в результате был весьма неудовлетворителен в 19 губерниях. Наконец, не оправдал надежд и 1908-й, хотя картина урожая предстала крайне пёстрой. «Сколько-нибудь обширного района сплошного неурожая в 1908 году не было, в 19 губерниях России урожай был средним (то есть более или менее соответствовал среднему за предыдущее пятилетие), в 33 губерниях Европейской России и Сибири был выше среднего, в 20 же губерниях и областях был ниже среднего, то есть более или менее неудовлетворителен». Среди этих последних губерний: Бессарабская, Воронежская, Иркутская, Калужская, Киевская, Курская, Московская, Орловская, Подольская, Полтавская, Саратовская, Смоленская, Ставропольская, Таврическая, Тамбовская, Тверская, Херсонская, Черниговская, а также Акмолинская область и Келецкая губерния Царства Польского.

    Последний «царский» неурожай случился в 1911 — он был отражением серьёзного общеевропейского неурожая на зерновые из-за засухи. Летом наблюдались сильная жара, горячие ветры-суховеи, тяжело проявившиеся в Поволжье и на Дону. Суровая зима с буранами и необычный весенний разлив рек также ухудшили положение. Неурожай охватил обширную территорию всего Поволжья (от Нижнего Новгорода до Астрахани), Кавказ, Камский район, Приуралье и Западную Сибирь, Степной и Приморский края, так или иначе затронув 60 губерний (особенно сильно Самарскую, Оренбургскую, Пермскую и Область войска Донского) с населением более 20 миллионов человек. В пострадавших районах собрали только 1/3 урожая зерновых против среднего.

     

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    Как жилось крестьянам в царской России. Аналитика и факты

    Так один из инициаторов создания монархической организации «Всероссийский национальный союз» Михаил Осипович Меньшиков писал в 1909 году:

    «С каждым годом армия русская становится всё более хворой и физически неспособной…Из трёх парней трудно выбрать одного, вполне годного для службы… Плохое питание в деревне, бродячая жизнь на заработках, ранние браки, требующие усиленного труда в почти юношеский возраст, — вот причины физического истощения…Сказать страшно, какие лишения до службы претерпевает иногда новобранец. Около 40 проц. новобранцев почти в первый раз ели мясо по поступлении на военную службу. На службе солдат ест кроме хорошего хлеба отличные мясные щи и кашу, т.е. то, о чём многие не имеют уже понятия в деревне…»[13]. Точно такие же данные дал привел главнокомандующий генерал В.Гурко – по призыву с 1871 по 1901 г., сообщив, что 40% крестьянских парней впервые в жизни пробуют мясо в армии.

    «Западное сельскохозяйственное население в основном потребляло высококалорийные продукты животного происхождения, российский крестьянин удовлетворял свою потребность в пище с помощью хлеба и картофеля с меньшей калорийностью. Потребление мяса необыкновенно мало. Кроме малой энергетической ценности подобного питания…потребление большой массы растительной пиши, компенсирующей нехватку животной, влечет за собой тяжелые желудочные заболевания»[10].

    Голод приводил к тяжёлым массовым болезням и жестоким эпидемиям. [14] Даже по дореволюционным исследованиям официального органа (отдела Министерства Внутренних Дел Российской Империи) ситуация выглядит просто ужасающей и позорной. [15] В исследовании приведен показатель смертности на 100 тыс. чел. по таким болезным: в европейских странах и отдельных самоуправляемых территориях (например, Венгрия) в составе стран.

    По смертности по всем шести основным инфекционным болезням (оспа, корь, скарлатина, дифтерия, коклюш, тиф) прочно, с колоссальным отрывом в разы лидировала Россия.
    1. Россия – 527,7 чел.
    2. Венгрия – 200,6 чел.
    3. Австрия – 152,4 чел.

    Наименьшая суммарная смертность по основным болезням — Норвегия – 50,6 чел. Более чем в 10 раз меньше чем в России!

    Смертность по болезням:

    Скарлатина: 1-е место – Россия – 134,8 чел., 2-е место – Венгрия – 52,4 чел. 3-е место – Румыния – 52,3 чел.

    Даже в Румынии и неблагополучной Венгрии смертность в два с лишним раза меньше, чем в России. Для сравнения, наименьшая смертность от скарлатины была в Ирландии – 2,8 чел.

    Корь: 1. Россия – 106,2 чел. 2-е Испания – 45 чел. 3-е Венгрия – 43,5 чел. Наименьшая смертность от кори Норвегия – 6 чел, в нищей Румынии – 13 чел. Опять разрыв с ближайшим соседом в списке – более чем в два раза.

    Тиф: 1. Россия – 91,0 чел. 2. Италия – 28,4 чел. 3. Венгрия – 28,0 чел. Наименьшая в Европе — Норвегия – 4 чел. Под тиф, кстати, в России-которую-мы-потеряли списывали потери от голода. Так рекомендовалось делать врачам – списывать голодный тиф (поражение кишечника при голодании и сопутствующих заболеваниях) как инфекционный. Об этом вполне открыто писали в газетах. В общем, разрыв с ближайшим соседом по несчастью – почти 4 раза. Кто-то, кажется, говорил,что большевики подделывали статистику? Ну-ну. А вот тут хоть подделывай, хоть нет – уровень нищей африканской страны.

    Уже неудивительно, что далее картина практически такая же.

    Коклюш: 1.Россия – 80,9 чел. 2. Шотландия – 43,3 чел. 3. Австрия – 38,4 чел.

    Оспа: 1. Россия – 50,8 чел. 2. Испания – 17,4 чел. 3.Италия – 1,4 чел. Разница с весьма небогатой и отсталой аграрной Испанией – практически 3 раза. Про лидеров в ликвидации этой болезни даже лучше не вспоминать. Нищая, притесняемая англичанами Ирландия, откуда народ тысячами бежал за океан — 0,03 чел. Про Швецию даже неприлично говорить 0,01 человек на 100 тысяч, то есть один из 10 миллионов. Разница более чем в 5000 раз.

    Единственно в чём разрыв не столь ужасен, всего чуть более полутора раз – дифтерия: 1. Россия – 64,0 чел. 2. Венгрия – 39,8 чел. 3-е место по смертности – Австрия – 31,4 чел. Мировой лидер богатства и индустриализации, только недавно избавившаяся от турецого ига Румыния – 5,8 чел.

    «Дети питаются хуже, чем телята у хозяина, имеющего хороший скот. Смертность детей куда больше, чем смертность телят, и если бы у хозяина, имеющего хороший скот, смертность телят была так же велика, как смертность детей у мужика, то хозяйничать было бы невозможно…. Если бы матери питались лучше, если бы наша пшеница, которую ест немец, оставалась дома, то и дети росли бы лучше и не было бы такой смертности, не свирепствовали бы все эти тифы, скарлатины, дифтериты. Продавая немцу нашу пшеницу, мы продаём кровь нашу, то есть мужицких детей»[16].

    Несложно посчитать, что в Российской Империи только из-за повышенной заболеваемости от голода, отвратительно поставленной медицины и гигиены, просто так, между прочим ни за понюшку табаку умирало в года примерно четверть миллиона человек. Это результат именно бездарного и безответственного государственного управления России. И это только в случае, если бы удалось улучшить ситуацию до уровня самой неблагополучной страны «классической» Европы в этом отношении — Венгрии. Если сократить разрыв до уровня среднеевропейской страны, только это спасло бы примерно полмиллиона жизней в год.

     

    Как откровенно пишут исследователи: «У детей всех возрастов, у которых при любых условиях наблюдается систематический дефицит калорий».[10]

    «В конце XIX века в России до 5-летнего возраста доживало всего 550 из 1000 родившихся детей, тогда как в большинстве западноевропейских стран — более 700.Перед Революцией ситуация несколько улучшилась – умирало «всего лишь» 400 детей из 1000.» [19]

    За 1880-1916 гг. Избыточная смертность детей по сравнению со составляла более миллиона детей в год. То есть с 1890 под 1914 год только по причине бездарного государственного управления в России умерло ни за понюшку табаку примерно 25 миллионов детей. Это население Польши тех лет, если бы она вымерла полностью. Если добавить к ним взрослое население, не дожившее до среднестатистического уровня, то общие числа будут просто ужасающими.

    К концу 1913 года основные показатели общественного благополучия, качества питания и медицины – средняя продолжительность жизни и младенческая смертность в России находились на африканском уровне. Средняя продолжительность жизни 1913 году — 32,9 года Мельянцев В.А. Восток и Запад во втором тысячелетии:экономика, история и со­временность. — М., 1996. В то время как в Англии – 52 года, Франции – 50 лет, Германии – 49 лет, среднеевропейская – 49 лет. [21]

    По этому важнейшему показателю качества жизни в государстве Россия находилась на уровне западных стран где-то начала-середины 18 века, отставая от них примерно на два столетия.

    Даже быстрый экономический рост между 1880 и 1913 гг. на не сократил этого отставания. Прогресс в увеличении продолжительности жизни был очень медленным – в России в 1883 – 27,5 лет, в 1900 году — 30 лет. Это показывает эффективность общественного строя в целом – сельского хозяйства, экономики, медицины, культуры, науки, политического устройства. Но этот медленный рост связанный с увеличением грамотности населения и распространением простейших санитарных знаний [12] привёл к росту населения и, как следствие, уменьшение земельных участков и увеличение количества «ртов». Возникала крайне опасная нестабильная ситуация из которой не было выхода без кардинального переустройства общественных отношений.

    Однако даже такая невеликая продолжительнсть жизни это относится только к самым лучшим годам, в годы массовых эпидемий и голодовок продолжительность жизни была ещё меньше в 1906, 1909-1911 гг, как с говорят даже ангажированные исследователи продолжительность жизни «у женщин не опустилась ниже 30, а у мужчин — ниже 28 лет». [22] Что тут сказать, какой повод для гордости – средняя продолжительность жизни 29 лет в 1909-1911 годах.

    Иван Солоневич, ярый монархист и антисоветчик так охарктеризовал ситуацию в Российской Империи перед Революцией:

    «Факт чрезвычайной экономической отсталости России по сравнению с остальным культурным миром не подлежит никакому сомнению. По цифрам 1912 года народный доход на душу населения составлял: в САСШ (США – П.К.) 720 рублей (в золотом довоенном исчислении), в Англии — 500, в Германии — 300, в Италии — 230 и в России — 110. Итак, средний русский ещё до Первой мировой войны был почти в семь раз беднее среднего американца и больше чем в два раза беднее среднего итальянца. Даже хлеб — основное наше богатство — был скуден. Если Англия потребляла на душу населения 24 пуда, Германия — 27 пудов, а САСШ — целых 62 пуда, то русское потребление хлеба было только 21,6 пуда, включая всё это и на корм скоту.(Солоневич пользуется несколько завышенными данными – П.К.) Нужно при этом принять во внимание, что в пищевом рационе России хлеб занимал такое место, как нигде в других странах не занимал. В богатых странах мира, как САСШ, Англия, Германия и Франция, хлеб вытеснялся мясными и молочными продуктами и рыбой — в свежем и консервированном виде…» [27]

    С. Ю. Витте в 1899 году на совещании министров подчеркивал: «Если сравнивать потребление у нас и в Европе, то средний размер его на душу составит в России чет­вертую или пятую часть того, что в других странах признается необходимым для обычного существования» [28]

    Вот слова не кого-нибудь, министра земледелия 1915–1916 гг. А. Н. Наумова, весьма реакционного монархиста, а вовсе не большевика и революционера: «Россия фактически не вылезает из состояния голода то в одной, то в другой губернии, как до войны так и во время войны».[29] А дальше у него же следует: «Процветают спекуляция хлебом, хищничество, взяточничество; комиссионеры, поставляющие зерно, наживают состояние, не отходя от телефона. И на фоне полной нищеты одних — безумная роскошь других. В двух шагах от конвульсий голодной смерти — оргии пресыщения. Вокруг усадеб власть имущих вымирают селения. Они же тем временем заняты постройкой новых вилл и дворцов.»

     

     

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  • Panzership

    Да ладно вам.

     

    1. Ещё только альфа.

    2. Автор так видит.

    3. Это порт старого мода с DH, где ж вы раньше-то были?

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    Дон Андрон
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    @simpleguy

    1917. Германия не начинает (снова) неограниченную подводную войну, США не вступает в войну... Конкретно то, о чем вы говорите - продукт немецкой интервенции в Гражданскую войну в 20 году. Украина, кстати, сначала была в сфере влияния Австрии.

    Если победила ось, то почему развалилась Австро-Венгрия? Финляндией правит германский принц, но почему она не в союзе с Германией?  Почему при цветущей Турции, существуют независимые кавказские республики? Как Монголия отпилила Забайкалье? Япония захватила Приморье и Сахалин, но не смогла захватить побережье Охотского моря и Камчатку, а также выйти к Байкалу? Авторы слишком сильно натягивают сову на глобус.

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  • Panzership
    12 минуты назад, Дон Андрон сказал:

    Если победила ось, то почему развалилась Австро-Венгрия? Финляндией правит германский принц, но почему она не в союзе с Германией?  Почему при цветущей Турции, существуют независимые кавказские республики? Как Монголия отпилила Забайкалье? Япония захватила Приморье, но не смогла захватить побережье Охотского моря и Камчатку? Авторы слишком сильно натягивают сову на глобус.

    Подхвачу знамя.

     

    А-В демократично развалилась из-за внутренних противоречий в послевоенные годы. Не секрет, что довоенная история А-В парламентаризма является чередой кризисов и национальных бойкотов, а сама двуединая монархия в большей степени скреплялась личностью императора Франца Иосифа (умер в 1916), чем какими-то общегосударственными институтами.

     

    Тезис про Финляндию не содержит логики. В Бельгии и Греции на трон тоже в своё время сажали немецких принцев, но о союзах этих стран с Германией нам неизвестно.

     

    Турция не цветёт, Турция просто не развалилась. Внутри это отсталая нереформированная страна, застрявшая не то что в XIX, а скорее в XVII веке.

     

    По таймлайну Кайзеррейха Унгерн заручился поддержкой местных казачьих атаманов и поставил под контроль Транссиб в то время, как в европейской России бушевала Гражданская война. Честь возвращать Транссиб России (и не только Транссиб) предоставляется игроку.

     

    Зона влияния Японии в Кайзеррейхе примерно соответствует исторической линии продвижения японских войск в годы Гражданской войны (ну, чуть восточней). Да, при этом Япония не захватывала Камчатку, Магадан, а ещё Таймыр и Новую Землю. Ну вот так.

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    simpleguy
    Только что, Zelchenko сказал:

    @simpleguy , дайте сюда полную копипасту этой псевдоистории, ну пожалуйста!

    Таймлайн (многабукав)  

     

    The Weltkrieg

    1914
    - While visiting Sarajevo on the 28th of June, Archduke Franz Ferdinand is assasinated by Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip. In a reaction Austria-Hungary sends an ultimatum to Serbia, whose contents are deliberately made unacceptable to the Serbs. Austria-Hungary declare war on Serbia shortly after receiving German backing. Russia in turn declares war on Austria-Hungary and Germany, dragging its ally France, waiting for an opportunity to reclaim Alsace-Lorraine, into the war too.
    - When Germany invades neutral Belgium to execute the Schlieffen-plan the British Empire declares war on Germany. The German advance to Paris is halted at the Marne and a series of flanking attempts, known as the Race to the Sea, prove unsuccesful. The war in the West grinds down to a halt.
    - The Germans are much more succesful in the East, repulsing the Russian invasion of East Prussia and defeating the Russians at the battles of the Mazurian Lakes and at Tannenberg. The architects of these victories, Field Marshall Hindenburg and general Ludendorff would play key roles in the final German victory.
    - The Ottoman Empire joins the Central Powers later in the year, after a dispute with Britain about the confiscation of ships being built for the Empire.
    - Almost all German colonies are occupied before the end of the year, besides German East-Africa. Here general Von Lettow-Vorbeck will play a game of cat and mouse with the allied forces until the end of the war.

    1915
    - In the West the lines remain static, but the fighting increases in brutality, with chlorine gas being first used during the Second battle of Ypres on 22th of april.
    - In the East Russia is being pushed back by the Germans, but manages to hold on to Galicia.
    - Bulgaria joins the war on the side of the Central Powers and Serbia becomes the first allied nation to be defeated.
    - Italy joins the war on the allied side, hoping to claim the Austro-Hungarian Illyrian provinces. The campaign bogs down to trench warfare.
    - In an ill concieved effort to knock the Ottomans out of the War, allied troops land near Gallipoli, hoping to gain control of the vital Dardanelles. The whole campaign becomes a disaster and the allies will pull back their forces before the year ends. A British invasion on Mesopotamia is repelled and the remaining troops retreat to Kut, where the disastrous siege of Kut will start.
    - A German submarine sinks the Lusitania. A severe backlash in the United States leads to Germany abandoning its unrestricted submarine warfare, which had hoped to strangle Britain into submission. Many speculated that a continuation of the unrestricted submarine warfare could have led to the entry of the United States into the war.

    1916
    - The battle of Verdun starts, attempting to bleed the French army dry. In reality all sides bleed equally in a battle which soon loses its military objective. A similar attempt the the British forces at the Somme has the same outcome. 1916 also saw the first use of tanks at the battle of Cambrai.
    - In the East the Brusilov offensive is launched. While very succesful at first, the offensive doesn’t manage to either knock the Austro-Hungarians out of the war, or drive Germany from Russian Poland.
    - The British troops at Kut are forced to surrender, dealing a heavy blow to British prestige. The Ottomans are being pushed out of the Caucasus and Armenia by a succesful Russian campaign. The Sharif of Mecca starts of a general Arab revolt against the Turks.
    - At sea the First Battle of Jutland ends in a tactical German victory, but a strategic British victory, as the Hochseeflotte will remain in port until late 1918.
    - Romania tries to profit from Austrian setbacks and invades Transsylvania. German assistance would lead to a quick collapse of Romania, with Bucarest being taken by August von Mackensen within the year. Further south the allies have taken positions around Salonica.

    1917
    - In Germany chancellor Von Bethmann-Hollweg is forced to resign, being replaced by Georg Michaelis. It was soon clear that Michaelis was little more than a puppet for Hindenburg and Ludendorff.
    - On the Western front the heavy French casualties at Chemin des Dames lead to a strike among the French soldiers. This would paralyze the French Army until the end of the year, giving Germany a chance to recover from the Brusilov Offensive.
    - Russia collapses into anarchy, with the Czar abdicating early 1917. A provisional government is formed under Alexandr Kerensky, but this government was overthrown by Lenins Bolshevists in november 1917, starting the Russian Civil War.
    - In Italy the Caporetto Offensive beats the Italians back to the Piave river, where a last minute defence saves Venice in the nick of time.
    - The Ottomans receive blow after blow, with both Baghdad and Jeruzalem being lost to British forces.

    1918
    - In early january the Peace of Brest-Litovsk is signed between the Germans and the Bolsheviks, freeing thouzands of German and Austrian troops. The Bolsheviks turn over Finland, the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine to the Germans.
    - A great allied spring offensive, designed at breaking the Germans before their reinforcements arrive, is being repulsed at great cost of life.
    - Operation Teutoberg is launced, attempting to kick Greece out of the war. Instaed of assaulting the Salonica stronghold head on, the Central Powers make extensive use of specialized stormtroopers and so called infiltration tactics. The defenders at Salonica are pinned down while the rest of the Central forces sweep through Greece. Athens falls on july 3rd, causing the Greek government to surrender. The forces at Salonica are evacuated soon afterwards.
    - General Allenby manages to pull of the last great allied victory of the war, encircling and destroying large parts of the Ottoman Army and conquering Damascus. Only the las minute arrival of two German divisions in Asia Minor prevent an invasion of Anatolia.
    - The succesful allied tactics against the German u-boats and the bloccade of Germany itself leads to a desperate sally of the Hochseeflotte, now led by admiral Hipper. The Second Battle of Jutland ends in a tie, but the shock of being assaulted forces the Royal Navy to break their blocade. The end of the blocade and the influx of Ukranian grain ends all fears of Germany being starved into submission.

    1919
    - On the second of march the Germans launch their Great Offensive at St. Mihiel, south of Verdun. The infiltration tactics prove to be succesfull, with Nancy falling on the 16th. The French organize an ad hoc defence, leving their flank exposed. An attack on Rheims on the 26th splits the allied forces in two. An attack on Chateau-Thierry meant the French couldn’t retreat back to the Marne. In effect the entire French army was forced to retreat south and Paris was now under siege.
    - Operation Radowitz is launced on the 11th of march, attacking the Italian forces from Trento instead of Piave. Vicenza and Verona fall on the 24th pinning the Italians between two Central armies when Venice is reached on the 10th of april. The siege of Venice would last until July, but with most of the Italian army occupied the rest of Italy lay defenceless, with Rome falling on the firsth of August. Italy would surrender a few days later. The surrender of Italy meant the road to Southern France was now open, with Marseilles falling in september.
    - Allied setbacks would lead to Allenby, and most of his troops, being redeployed to France. Allenby’s successor, Sir William Marshall, is forced to slowly retreat because of a lack of man.
    - The retreat of the French army lead to the positions of the BEF becoming undefendable. Most of the British forces where evacuated at Dieppe in June, leaving the French on their own. At this point the French army, battered, war-weary and with little hope of victory was in open rebellion. With a second mutiny, a general uprising of the working classes imminent, the fall of Paris a certainty and Marseilles in German hands, the French government capitulated on the 4th of october, ending the war in Europe.

    1920
    - The fall of France, Russia, Italy and its allies in the Balkans reduced the Entente to the British Empire, Japan and Portugal. While none of these countries was under direct German threat, none was able to pose a threat to Germany likewise. The battle between Germany and Britain continued for two more years at sea, with the Battle of Rockall of 20th of march 1920 being the last great engagement, best known for the fact a torpedo launched from an airplane from the aerodrome-ship Argus managed to cripple the German battlecruiser Würtemberg.
    - Peace was being made on harsh terms with all former Entente nations.
    - Serbia would secede Macedonia to Bulgaria and accept Austria-Hungary as its nominal overlord. Montenegro was annexed by Austria outright.
    - Greece was forced to secede Greek Macedonia and Salonica to Bulgaria, while it had to accept a German lease on Crete for as long as the Kaiser deemed neccesary.
    - Romania had to secede Oltenia to Hungary and the port of Constanza to Bulgaria. The oilfields of Ploesti where leased to Germany. Romania was allowed to annex Moldova however.
    - Italy was split apart in a number of weak republics, duchies and principalties, with Tuscany, the Papal States and the Kingdom of the Sicilies returning on the map of Europe. The Kingdom of the Sicilies was ravaged by revolution soon afterwards and the Northern states united themselves as the Italian Federation, under the symbolic and spiritual leadership of the Pope. The Veneto was annexed by Austria outright. Libya became a kingdom under Ottoman protection while Germanies last minute ally Ethiopia was allowed to annex most of Somalia, mainly because neither Germany nor Austria had any interest in it.
    - France was poised to secede the French Congo, Madagascar and the French Pacific colonies, in addition tot the occupation of parts of French Lorraine. The revolution prevented the ratification of the treaty, causing Germany to simply occupy these colonies.
    - Belgium was changed into the Kingdom of Flander-Wallonia, with the Kaisers son Adalbert becoming the new king. The Belgian Congo was given to Germany and Wallonia east of the Meuse, the location of most Belgian industry would be occupied as long as the German government deemed neccesary. The Grand-Duchy of Luxemburg would become a constituent state of the German Empire.
    - In the East the acquisitions of the Brest-Litovsk treaty where organized into a series of puppetstates. The Baltics where united into the United Baltic Duchy, with Adolf Friedrich von Mecklemburg becoming its first Grand Duke. The Kaisers brother Heinrich became king Genrikh I of White Ruthenia (Belarus). Poland and Finland became independent states under German protection, with the Kaisers brother-in-law Friedrich-Karl von Hessen becoming king of Finland. Lithuania became independent with Wilhelm von Urach, Duke of Urach, becoming King Mindaugas. The Austrians where allowed to put Archduke Wilhelm Franz on the Ukranian throne in exchange for guarantees about Ukranians rich supplies of coals and grain.

    1921
    - the war between the Entente and the Central Powers dragged on in 1920 and 1921, with the Royal Navy and Hochseeflotte occasionally butting heads and Central troops trying to break through the British lines at the Suez channel. With no chance of either side breaking the stalemate, and with Russia, France and Southern Italy engulfed by revolution, general Ludendorff proposed a ‘Peace with Honour’ to the Entente. The remaining Entente members would acknowledge the peace treaties between Germany and the former Entente members and return Germanies colonies in exchange a status-quo peace. The peace itself was signed on November 11th 1921, ending the Weltkrieg after seven long years.

    Postwar developments

    1919
    - The Confédération Générale du Travail (CGT), led by anarcho-syndicalist Emile Pouget, declares a general strike in reaction to the bloody defeat of the French army during the German Great Offensive and the second mutiny. Its main aim was an immediate end to the war. After the fall of Paris the government of Georges Clemenceau was replaced by a Provisional Government under Aristide Briand.
    - Jacobin radicals, inspired by their Russian brethren and Lenins theories about a revolutionary vanguard start a series of attacks on government officials and public buildings, ending achance of the CGT and Provisional Goverbnment reaching an agreement. An attempt of the government to use demobilized soldiers to restore order ends in many soldiers joining the revolutionaries. France in engulfed in a short but bloody war, ending in a victory for the revolutionaries. Emile Pouget starts with the difficult task of changring the French Republic into the Commune of France.
    - The remains of the French establishment flee to Algiers, setting up a government-in-exile, led by Maréchal Foch.
    - The White generals agree to coordinate their efforts with Kerensky’s provisional government to fight the Red Army at the Congress of Omsk. Trotsky decides to focus his efforts on defending Moscow, allowing the White armies to retake St. Petersburg.
    - Baron Ungern von Sternberg and his ‘Wild division’ take the Mongolian capital of Urga, with Sternberg declaring himself Mongolia's supreme ruler.

    1920
    - The threat of becoming surrounded by syndicalist states, es well as the presence of Makhno’s Black Army in Eastern Ukraine makes Germany intervene in the Russian Civil War. General Wilhelm Groener is ordered to support the White generals in their fight. Groener manages to drive Makhno out of the Ukraine, but fails to rally the Cossacks in support of the Kerensky government. The Cossacks would soon form their own state, just as Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Alash Orda and Turkestan would secede. Georgia quickly fell to the so called Menshevist remnants in the Caucasus.
    - Republican candidate Leonard Wood defeats his democratic opponent William McAdoo, replacing president Woodrow Wilson. Wilsons deteriorating heath prevented him from running for another term.
    - Wood would become known for his strong crackdown on socialism and syndicalism alike and a policy of strict isolationism, jailing Eugene V. Debs, but was unable to prevent the Zapatista from gaining control in Mexico.

    1921
    - The combined forces of Marshall Denikin and Groeners expeditionary corps defeat the forces of Trotsky and Tukhachevsky at Tsaritsyn on the 21th of february after weeks of bitter street fighting. With the road to Moscow open, Baron Wrangel takes the city in september. Trotsky uses the confusion to flee the country, but the civil war is at an end.

    1922
    - after the Easter Uprising in 1916 and five years of war, a peace treaty is concluded between UK and Irish rebels that leads to the creation of a new Free Irish State on Jan. 1 1922. Negotiations with German ambassador Franz von Papen convinced Michael Collins to offer the crown of King of Ireland to Prince Joachim, but German delays and reluctance to let the Prince depart to Ireland led to the declaration of the Republic in October. Marshall Collins becomes the head of the Irish state. The whole affair was deeply embarrasing to the Ludendorff/Hindenburg junta and was quickly swept under the carpet.
    - South Rhodesia joins South Africa, nervous of potential German expantionism in its region.

    1923
    - thrown into depression after his short reign as King of Ireland and his unhappy marriage, Prince Joachim attempts suicide. The scandal is initially covered but leads to speculation.

    1924
    - President Wood gets reelected, defeating his democrat opponent Albert Smith.
    - Admiral Kolchak attempts to coup the Russian government but fails to secure the vital support of Denikin and Wrangel. He quickly flees to Vladivostock, where the Japanese set him up as president of Transamur.
    - The German press, dominated by DVP supporter Alfred Hugenberg, finds out the thruth behind Prince Joachims suicide attempt and accuses Ludendorff of mishandling the Irish crisis. Grand Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz, now the leader of the DVP, manages to gain the Kaisers support to force de facto dictator Erich Ludendorff to step down. Tirpitz then replaces feeble Michaelis as chancellor. The old and respectable Field Marshall Hindenburg was made minister of war in Tirpitz cabinet,suggesting some kind of behind-the-screen dealings between Tirpitz, Hindenburg and the Kaiser.

    1925
    - A coalminers strike in Wales quickly escalates into a general strike when the government threatens to send in the army. The strike was quickly followed by a mutiny of parts of the navy and ended with the king and the government fleeing to Canada. A coalition of syndicalists, Labour, Welsh and Scottish nationalists and suffragettes take over the government under the charismatic John McLean.
    The fall of Britain itself lead to a massive landgrab by many of its longtime enemies. Gibraltar finally fell into Spanish hands once again, while Argentina quickly seazed the Falklands, Egypt gained sole authority over the Sudan and the Ottoman Empire regained control over Cyprus. The German Empire managed to secure most of the British African Empire as well as the strategic colonies of Malta, Suez, Aden, Ceylon, the Strait Colonies, Brunei and Sarawak.
    - Australia and New Zealand seize the British part of New Guinea and Fiji. Later in the year both nations would form the Australasian Confederation for mutual protection.
    - India, once the pearl in the British crown breaks down into three new states. The Princes of Kashmir and the Punjab unite with the remaints of the Raj to create British friendly Delhi while a revolt in Bengal leads to the establishment of a syndicalist state there. The Princes of the South form their own, independent Princely Federation. Birma becomes an independent kingdom once again.
    - South Africa manages to secure the Bechuana Protectorate and Nyassaland. Tension between pro-Entente Smuts and pro-republic Hertzog grows.
    - The only thing left for Canada and the Royal Navies caribean squadron is to secure the British colonies in the region. These colonies, together with the former French colonies inthe region would form the Caribean Federation.
    - In Canada the senate is replaced by a House of Lords, members of the British aristocracy who fled to Canada.
    - Xu Shichang manages to become president of the divided Chinese Republic. In an effort to restore order, Xu asks the German Empire to help him restore order in China. In exchange he would accept the restoration of Pu Yi to the Chinese throne. The Guominjun accuses Xu of betraying the Republican principles of Sun Yat-Sen and declares war on him.
    - In order to manage its many Imperial possesions in Africa,Germany creates the Freistaat Mittelafrika after the model of the British Raj. Field marshall Von Lettow-Vorbeck becomes its first Stadthalter.


    1926
    - Governor Hans von Seeckt of German Indochina is ordered to intervene in the civil war in support of Xu. Within six months Germany manages to defeat the Guominjun and secure most major centers of industry and population. The opponents of the government retreat to the remote west, Yunnan or Manchuria Pu Yi is restored as Emperor, but has to accept a coglomerate of German enterprises, known as the AOG (Algemeiner Ostasien GmbH) taking economic control of the industrial south. Hans von Seeckt would become its first governor-general. In order to safeguard the economic interests of other major powers all the port cities are united as the Legation Cities and are put under joint control.
    - Japan intervenes too in support of Zhang Zuolin, but isn't willing to risk conflict with Germany. The Fengtian Republic is set up in Manchuria.

    1927
    - President Wood dies of a malignant brain tumor. His vice president Irvine Lenroot becomes the next president.
    - The renegotiation of the Ausgleich between Austria and Hungary nearly leads to a splitup of the Dual Monarchy. Only German intervention prevents the split. The final outcome is a federalisation of the Empire, with Bohemia, Galicia-Lodomera, Croatia and Bosnia all gaining limited homerule. In the confusion Serbia manages to break out of the Austrian sphere of influence.
    - Ukraine, which was part of the Austrian sphere of influence becomes part of Germanies alliance, as a 'reward' for Germanies mediation.
    - Revolts sweep through Guatemala, toppling the government. British Honduras quickly falls to revolution too, joining the new syndicalist state.

    1928
    - Republican Herbert Hoover defeats New York governor Al Smith.
    - The Central American revolt spreads to El Salvador. Guatemala and El Salvador merge to form Centroamerica

    1929
    - The inability of the Entente nations to pay off their enormous debts and Germanies heavy protectionism have hurt the American economy for years but in 1929 the New York stock exchange finally collapses, sending America into the Great Depression. The economic crisis remainslimited to the American continent, with the European economies now oriented on the Berlin stock exchange.
    - The Iron Guard party coups the Romanian government, installing Corneliu Codreanu as the Conductare.

    1930
    - Grand Admiral Afred von Tirpitz dies on the 6th of march. He is replaced by Fieldmarshall Oskar von Hutier, the man finalizing the encirclement of Paris during the Weltkrieg. He was the most succesful and popular chancellor in German history behind Otto von Bismarck himself.

    1931
    - In a reaction to the growing threat of Centroamerica, Nicaragua and Costa Rica unite to form the United Provinces.

    1932
    - Herbert Hoover narrowly defeats Franklin D. Roosevelt, mainly because the once Solid South voted for Gerald K. Smith, the candidate put forward by popular Louisiana governor Huey Long and his American First movement. The syndicalists, led by Alexander Berkman and John ‘Jack’ Reed manage to win the state of New York.
    - In South Africa Barry Hertzog wins the elections and declares South Africa to be a republic. South Africa leaves the Entente.

    1933
    - Chancellor Von Hutier dies and is replaced by Franz von Papen.
    - A series of border skirmishes between Paraguay and Bolivia leads to Argentina and Bolivia go to war over the alledged Bolivian attempts to annex Paraguay.

    1934
    - Argentina manages to drive the Bolivians out of the disputed Gran Chaco region. Brazil decides to intervene on Bolivia’s behals, sparking off the Great South American War. Small Uruguay is quickly overrun by Brazilian forces, having the misfortune to be in the way. The march towards the River Plate ended in trench warfare.

    1935
    - Argentinian troops, fresh from defeating Bolivia counterattack the Brazilian lines along the River Plate. The tired Brazilian forces break and Brazil quickly seeks terms. Paraguay and Uruguay join Argentina in the newly created Federation of La Plata.
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt is assasinated on the 12th of april by a radical American Firster.
     

     

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    В интернационале сохранились выборы? Просто одно из моих любимых фишек старого кайзеррейха - выборы при социализме. При желание можно было резко сменить правящую  коалицию. Я в одном AAR об мире, где власть сначала захватили тоталисты, но затем  власть захватили радикал-социалисты, и сторонники революционной демократии. Таков в HOIV возможно?

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    Так они его 1 к 1 переносят. 

    Так что должно быть можно. 

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    Леарх Гаутсон
    В 05.12.2016 at 17:20, asterix120 сказал:

    Так они его 1 к 1 переносят. 

    Так что должно быть можно. 

    Слався социалистическая демократия! :-D 

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    В 03.12.2016 at 18:27, simpleguy сказал:
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    The Weltkrieg

    1914
    - While visiting Sarajevo on the 28th of June, Archduke Franz Ferdinand is assasinated by Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip. In a reaction Austria-Hungary sends an ultimatum to Serbia, whose contents are deliberately made unacceptable to the Serbs. Austria-Hungary declare war on Serbia shortly after receiving German backing. Russia in turn declares war on Austria-Hungary and Germany, dragging its ally France, waiting for an opportunity to reclaim Alsace-Lorraine, into the war too.
    - When Germany invades neutral Belgium to execute the Schlieffen-plan the British Empire declares war on Germany. The German advance to Paris is halted at the Marne and a series of flanking attempts, known as the Race to the Sea, prove unsuccesful. The war in the West grinds down to a halt.
    - The Germans are much more succesful in the East, repulsing the Russian invasion of East Prussia and defeating the Russians at the battles of the Mazurian Lakes and at Tannenberg. The architects of these victories, Field Marshall Hindenburg and general Ludendorff would play key roles in the final German victory.
    - The Ottoman Empire joins the Central Powers later in the year, after a dispute with Britain about the confiscation of ships being built for the Empire.
    - Almost all German colonies are occupied before the end of the year, besides German East-Africa. Here general Von Lettow-Vorbeck will play a game of cat and mouse with the allied forces until the end of the war.

    1915
    - In the West the lines remain static, but the fighting increases in brutality, with chlorine gas being first used during the Second battle of Ypres on 22th of april.
    - In the East Russia is being pushed back by the Germans, but manages to hold on to Galicia.
    - Bulgaria joins the war on the side of the Central Powers and Serbia becomes the first allied nation to be defeated.
    - Italy joins the war on the allied side, hoping to claim the Austro-Hungarian Illyrian provinces. The campaign bogs down to trench warfare.
    - In an ill concieved effort to knock the Ottomans out of the War, allied troops land near Gallipoli, hoping to gain control of the vital Dardanelles. The whole campaign becomes a disaster and the allies will pull back their forces before the year ends. A British invasion on Mesopotamia is repelled and the remaining troops retreat to Kut, where the disastrous siege of Kut will start.
    - A German submarine sinks the Lusitania. A severe backlash in the United States leads to Germany abandoning its unrestricted submarine warfare, which had hoped to strangle Britain into submission. Many speculated that a continuation of the unrestricted submarine warfare could have led to the entry of the United States into the war.

    1916
    - The battle of Verdun starts, attempting to bleed the French army dry. In reality all sides bleed equally in a battle which soon loses its military objective. A similar attempt the the British forces at the Somme has the same outcome. 1916 also saw the first use of tanks at the battle of Cambrai.
    - In the East the Brusilov offensive is launched. While very succesful at first, the offensive doesn’t manage to either knock the Austro-Hungarians out of the war, or drive Germany from Russian Poland.
    - The British troops at Kut are forced to surrender, dealing a heavy blow to British prestige. The Ottomans are being pushed out of the Caucasus and Armenia by a succesful Russian campaign. The Sharif of Mecca starts of a general Arab revolt against the Turks.
    - At sea the First Battle of Jutland ends in a tactical German victory, but a strategic British victory, as the Hochseeflotte will remain in port until late 1918.
    - Romania tries to profit from Austrian setbacks and invades Transsylvania. German assistance would lead to a quick collapse of Romania, with Bucarest being taken by August von Mackensen within the year. Further south the allies have taken positions around Salonica.

    1917
    - In Germany chancellor Von Bethmann-Hollweg is forced to resign, being replaced by Georg Michaelis. It was soon clear that Michaelis was little more than a puppet for Hindenburg and Ludendorff.
    - On the Western front the heavy French casualties at Chemin des Dames lead to a strike among the French soldiers. This would paralyze the French Army until the end of the year, giving Germany a chance to recover from the Brusilov Offensive.
    - Russia collapses into anarchy, with the Czar abdicating early 1917. A provisional government is formed under Alexandr Kerensky, but this government was overthrown by Lenins Bolshevists in november 1917, starting the Russian Civil War.
    - In Italy the Caporetto Offensive beats the Italians back to the Piave river, where a last minute defence saves Venice in the nick of time.
    - The Ottomans receive blow after blow, with both Baghdad and Jeruzalem being lost to British forces.

    1918
    - In early january the Peace of Brest-Litovsk is signed between the Germans and the Bolsheviks, freeing thouzands of German and Austrian troops. The Bolsheviks turn over Finland, the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine to the Germans.
    - A great allied spring offensive, designed at breaking the Germans before their reinforcements arrive, is being repulsed at great cost of life.
    - Operation Teutoberg is launced, attempting to kick Greece out of the war. Instaed of assaulting the Salonica stronghold head on, the Central Powers make extensive use of specialized stormtroopers and so called infiltration tactics. The defenders at Salonica are pinned down while the rest of the Central forces sweep through Greece. Athens falls on july 3rd, causing the Greek government to surrender. The forces at Salonica are evacuated soon afterwards.
    - General Allenby manages to pull of the last great allied victory of the war, encircling and destroying large parts of the Ottoman Army and conquering Damascus. Only the las minute arrival of two German divisions in Asia Minor prevent an invasion of Anatolia.
    - The succesful allied tactics against the German u-boats and the bloccade of Germany itself leads to a desperate sally of the Hochseeflotte, now led by admiral Hipper. The Second Battle of Jutland ends in a tie, but the shock of being assaulted forces the Royal Navy to break their blocade. The end of the blocade and the influx of Ukranian grain ends all fears of Germany being starved into submission.

    1919
    - On the second of march the Germans launch their Great Offensive at St. Mihiel, south of Verdun. The infiltration tactics prove to be succesfull, with Nancy falling on the 16th. The French organize an ad hoc defence, leving their flank exposed. An attack on Rheims on the 26th splits the allied forces in two. An attack on Chateau-Thierry meant the French couldn’t retreat back to the Marne. In effect the entire French army was forced to retreat south and Paris was now under siege.
    - Operation Radowitz is launced on the 11th of march, attacking the Italian forces from Trento instead of Piave. Vicenza and Verona fall on the 24th pinning the Italians between two Central armies when Venice is reached on the 10th of april. The siege of Venice would last until July, but with most of the Italian army occupied the rest of Italy lay defenceless, with Rome falling on the firsth of August. Italy would surrender a few days later. The surrender of Italy meant the road to Southern France was now open, with Marseilles falling in september.
    - Allied setbacks would lead to Allenby, and most of his troops, being redeployed to France. Allenby’s successor, Sir William Marshall, is forced to slowly retreat because of a lack of man.
    - The retreat of the French army lead to the positions of the BEF becoming undefendable. Most of the British forces where evacuated at Dieppe in June, leaving the French on their own. At this point the French army, battered, war-weary and with little hope of victory was in open rebellion. With a second mutiny, a general uprising of the working classes imminent, the fall of Paris a certainty and Marseilles in German hands, the French government capitulated on the 4th of october, ending the war in Europe.

    1920
    - The fall of France, Russia, Italy and its allies in the Balkans reduced the Entente to the British Empire, Japan and Portugal. While none of these countries was under direct German threat, none was able to pose a threat to Germany likewise. The battle between Germany and Britain continued for two more years at sea, with the Battle of Rockall of 20th of march 1920 being the last great engagement, best known for the fact a torpedo launched from an airplane from the aerodrome-ship Argus managed to cripple the German battlecruiser Würtemberg.
    - Peace was being made on harsh terms with all former Entente nations.
    - Serbia would secede Macedonia to Bulgaria and accept Austria-Hungary as its nominal overlord. Montenegro was annexed by Austria outright.
    - Greece was forced to secede Greek Macedonia and Salonica to Bulgaria, while it had to accept a German lease on Crete for as long as the Kaiser deemed neccesary.
    - Romania had to secede Oltenia to Hungary and the port of Constanza to Bulgaria. The oilfields of Ploesti where leased to Germany. Romania was allowed to annex Moldova however.
    - Italy was split apart in a number of weak republics, duchies and principalties, with Tuscany, the Papal States and the Kingdom of the Sicilies returning on the map of Europe. The Kingdom of the Sicilies was ravaged by revolution soon afterwards and the Northern states united themselves as the Italian Federation, under the symbolic and spiritual leadership of the Pope. The Veneto was annexed by Austria outright. Libya became a kingdom under Ottoman protection while Germanies last minute ally Ethiopia was allowed to annex most of Somalia, mainly because neither Germany nor Austria had any interest in it.
    - France was poised to secede the French Congo, Madagascar and the French Pacific colonies, in addition tot the occupation of parts of French Lorraine. The revolution prevented the ratification of the treaty, causing Germany to simply occupy these colonies.
    - Belgium was changed into the Kingdom of Flander-Wallonia, with the Kaisers son Adalbert becoming the new king. The Belgian Congo was given to Germany and Wallonia east of the Meuse, the location of most Belgian industry would be occupied as long as the German government deemed neccesary. The Grand-Duchy of Luxemburg would become a constituent state of the German Empire.
    - In the East the acquisitions of the Brest-Litovsk treaty where organized into a series of puppetstates. The Baltics where united into the United Baltic Duchy, with Adolf Friedrich von Mecklemburg becoming its first Grand Duke. The Kaisers brother Heinrich became king Genrikh I of White Ruthenia (Belarus). Poland and Finland became independent states under German protection, with the Kaisers brother-in-law Friedrich-Karl von Hessen becoming king of Finland. Lithuania became independent with Wilhelm von Urach, Duke of Urach, becoming King Mindaugas. The Austrians where allowed to put Archduke Wilhelm Franz on the Ukranian throne in exchange for guarantees about Ukranians rich supplies of coals and grain.

    1921
    - the war between the Entente and the Central Powers dragged on in 1920 and 1921, with the Royal Navy and Hochseeflotte occasionally butting heads and Central troops trying to break through the British lines at the Suez channel. With no chance of either side breaking the stalemate, and with Russia, France and Southern Italy engulfed by revolution, general Ludendorff proposed a ‘Peace with Honour’ to the Entente. The remaining Entente members would acknowledge the peace treaties between Germany and the former Entente members and return Germanies colonies in exchange a status-quo peace. The peace itself was signed on November 11th 1921, ending the Weltkrieg after seven long years.

    Postwar developments

    1919
    - The Confédération Générale du Travail (CGT), led by anarcho-syndicalist Emile Pouget, declares a general strike in reaction to the bloody defeat of the French army during the German Great Offensive and the second mutiny. Its main aim was an immediate end to the war. After the fall of Paris the government of Georges Clemenceau was replaced by a Provisional Government under Aristide Briand.
    - Jacobin radicals, inspired by their Russian brethren and Lenins theories about a revolutionary vanguard start a series of attacks on government officials and public buildings, ending achance of the CGT and Provisional Goverbnment reaching an agreement. An attempt of the government to use demobilized soldiers to restore order ends in many soldiers joining the revolutionaries. France in engulfed in a short but bloody war, ending in a victory for the revolutionaries. Emile Pouget starts with the difficult task of changring the French Republic into the Commune of France.
    - The remains of the French establishment flee to Algiers, setting up a government-in-exile, led by Maréchal Foch.
    - The White generals agree to coordinate their efforts with Kerensky’s provisional government to fight the Red Army at the Congress of Omsk. Trotsky decides to focus his efforts on defending Moscow, allowing the White armies to retake St. Petersburg.
    - Baron Ungern von Sternberg and his ‘Wild division’ take the Mongolian capital of Urga, with Sternberg declaring himself Mongolia's supreme ruler.

    1920
    - The threat of becoming surrounded by syndicalist states, es well as the presence of Makhno’s Black Army in Eastern Ukraine makes Germany intervene in the Russian Civil War. General Wilhelm Groener is ordered to support the White generals in their fight. Groener manages to drive Makhno out of the Ukraine, but fails to rally the Cossacks in support of the Kerensky government. The Cossacks would soon form their own state, just as Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Alash Orda and Turkestan would secede. Georgia quickly fell to the so called Menshevist remnants in the Caucasus.
    - Republican candidate Leonard Wood defeats his democratic opponent William McAdoo, replacing president Woodrow Wilson. Wilsons deteriorating heath prevented him from running for another term.
    - Wood would become known for his strong crackdown on socialism and syndicalism alike and a policy of strict isolationism, jailing Eugene V. Debs, but was unable to prevent the Zapatista from gaining control in Mexico.

    1921
    - The combined forces of Marshall Denikin and Groeners expeditionary corps defeat the forces of Trotsky and Tukhachevsky at Tsaritsyn on the 21th of february after weeks of bitter street fighting. With the road to Moscow open, Baron Wrangel takes the city in september. Trotsky uses the confusion to flee the country, but the civil war is at an end.

    1922
    - after the Easter Uprising in 1916 and five years of war, a peace treaty is concluded between UK and Irish rebels that leads to the creation of a new Free Irish State on Jan. 1 1922. Negotiations with German ambassador Franz von Papen convinced Michael Collins to offer the crown of King of Ireland to Prince Joachim, but German delays and reluctance to let the Prince depart to Ireland led to the declaration of the Republic in October. Marshall Collins becomes the head of the Irish state. The whole affair was deeply embarrasing to the Ludendorff/Hindenburg junta and was quickly swept under the carpet.
    - South Rhodesia joins South Africa, nervous of potential German expantionism in its region.

    1923
    - thrown into depression after his short reign as King of Ireland and his unhappy marriage, Prince Joachim attempts suicide. The scandal is initially covered but leads to speculation.

    1924
    - President Wood gets reelected, defeating his democrat opponent Albert Smith.
    - Admiral Kolchak attempts to coup the Russian government but fails to secure the vital support of Denikin and Wrangel. He quickly flees to Vladivostock, where the Japanese set him up as president of Transamur.
    - The German press, dominated by DVP supporter Alfred Hugenberg, finds out the thruth behind Prince Joachims suicide attempt and accuses Ludendorff of mishandling the Irish crisis. Grand Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz, now the leader of the DVP, manages to gain the Kaisers support to force de facto dictator Erich Ludendorff to step down. Tirpitz then replaces feeble Michaelis as chancellor. The old and respectable Field Marshall Hindenburg was made minister of war in Tirpitz cabinet,suggesting some kind of behind-the-screen dealings between Tirpitz, Hindenburg and the Kaiser.

    1925
    - A coalminers strike in Wales quickly escalates into a general strike when the government threatens to send in the army. The strike was quickly followed by a mutiny of parts of the navy and ended with the king and the government fleeing to Canada. A coalition of syndicalists, Labour, Welsh and Scottish nationalists and suffragettes take over the government under the charismatic John McLean.
    The fall of Britain itself lead to a massive landgrab by many of its longtime enemies. Gibraltar finally fell into Spanish hands once again, while Argentina quickly seazed the Falklands, Egypt gained sole authority over the Sudan and the Ottoman Empire regained control over Cyprus. The German Empire managed to secure most of the British African Empire as well as the strategic colonies of Malta, Suez, Aden, Ceylon, the Strait Colonies, Brunei and Sarawak.
    - Australia and New Zealand seize the British part of New Guinea and Fiji. Later in the year both nations would form the Australasian Confederation for mutual protection.
    - India, once the pearl in the British crown breaks down into three new states. The Princes of Kashmir and the Punjab unite with the remaints of the Raj to create British friendly Delhi while a revolt in Bengal leads to the establishment of a syndicalist state there. The Princes of the South form their own, independent Princely Federation. Birma becomes an independent kingdom once again.
    - South Africa manages to secure the Bechuana Protectorate and Nyassaland. Tension between pro-Entente Smuts and pro-republic Hertzog grows.
    - The only thing left for Canada and the Royal Navies caribean squadron is to secure the British colonies in the region. These colonies, together with the former French colonies inthe region would form the Caribean Federation.
    - In Canada the senate is replaced by a House of Lords, members of the British aristocracy who fled to Canada.
    - Xu Shichang manages to become president of the divided Chinese Republic. In an effort to restore order, Xu asks the German Empire to help him restore order in China. In exchange he would accept the restoration of Pu Yi to the Chinese throne. The Guominjun accuses Xu of betraying the Republican principles of Sun Yat-Sen and declares war on him.
    - In order to manage its many Imperial possesions in Africa,Germany creates the Freistaat Mittelafrika after the model of the British Raj. Field marshall Von Lettow-Vorbeck becomes its first Stadthalter.


    1926
    - Governor Hans von Seeckt of German Indochina is ordered to intervene in the civil war in support of Xu. Within six months Germany manages to defeat the Guominjun and secure most major centers of industry and population. The opponents of the government retreat to the remote west, Yunnan or Manchuria Pu Yi is restored as Emperor, but has to accept a coglomerate of German enterprises, known as the AOG (Algemeiner Ostasien GmbH) taking economic control of the industrial south. Hans von Seeckt would become its first governor-general. In order to safeguard the economic interests of other major powers all the port cities are united as the Legation Cities and are put under joint control.
    - Japan intervenes too in support of Zhang Zuolin, but isn't willing to risk conflict with Germany. The Fengtian Republic is set up in Manchuria.

    1927
    - President Wood dies of a malignant brain tumor. His vice president Irvine Lenroot becomes the next president.
    - The renegotiation of the Ausgleich between Austria and Hungary nearly leads to a splitup of the Dual Monarchy. Only German intervention prevents the split. The final outcome is a federalisation of the Empire, with Bohemia, Galicia-Lodomera, Croatia and Bosnia all gaining limited homerule. In the confusion Serbia manages to break out of the Austrian sphere of influence.
    - Ukraine, which was part of the Austrian sphere of influence becomes part of Germanies alliance, as a 'reward' for Germanies mediation.
    - Revolts sweep through Guatemala, toppling the government. British Honduras quickly falls to revolution too, joining the new syndicalist state.

    1928
    - Republican Herbert Hoover defeats New York governor Al Smith.
    - The Central American revolt spreads to El Salvador. Guatemala and El Salvador merge to form Centroamerica

    1929
    - The inability of the Entente nations to pay off their enormous debts and Germanies heavy protectionism have hurt the American economy for years but in 1929 the New York stock exchange finally collapses, sending America into the Great Depression. The economic crisis remainslimited to the American continent, with the European economies now oriented on the Berlin stock exchange.
    - The Iron Guard party coups the Romanian government, installing Corneliu Codreanu as the Conductare.

    1930
    - Grand Admiral Afred von Tirpitz dies on the 6th of march. He is replaced by Fieldmarshall Oskar von Hutier, the man finalizing the encirclement of Paris during the Weltkrieg. He was the most succesful and popular chancellor in German history behind Otto von Bismarck himself.

    1931
    - In a reaction to the growing threat of Centroamerica, Nicaragua and Costa Rica unite to form the United Provinces.

    1932
    - Herbert Hoover narrowly defeats Franklin D. Roosevelt, mainly because the once Solid South voted for Gerald K. Smith, the candidate put forward by popular Louisiana governor Huey Long and his American First movement. The syndicalists, led by Alexander Berkman and John ‘Jack’ Reed manage to win the state of New York.
    - In South Africa Barry Hertzog wins the elections and declares South Africa to be a republic. South Africa leaves the Entente.

    1933
    - Chancellor Von Hutier dies and is replaced by Franz von Papen.
    - A series of border skirmishes between Paraguay and Bolivia leads to Argentina and Bolivia go to war over the alledged Bolivian attempts to annex Paraguay.

    1934
    - Argentina manages to drive the Bolivians out of the disputed Gran Chaco region. Brazil decides to intervene on Bolivia’s behals, sparking off the Great South American War. Small Uruguay is quickly overrun by Brazilian forces, having the misfortune to be in the way. The march towards the River Plate ended in trench warfare.

    1935
    - Argentinian troops, fresh from defeating Bolivia counterattack the Brazilian lines along the River Plate. The tired Brazilian forces break and Brazil quickly seeks terms. Paraguay and Uruguay join Argentina in the newly created Federation of La Plata.
    - Franklin D. Roosevelt is assasinated on the 12th of april by a radical American Firster.
     

     

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    Народ - у меня вопрос. Какую ветку фокусов лучше взять для армии коммун? Я понял только что не хочу брать "Централизованное Высшее Командование" , но не могу выбрать из остальных.

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    В 12/15/2016 at 06:44, Леарх Гаутсон сказал:

    Народ - у меня вопрос. Какую ветку фокусов лучше взять для армии коммун? Я понял только что не хочу брать "Централизованное Высшее Командование" , но не могу выбрать из остальных.

    Анархисткая неплохая. Мэнпавер очень не помешает.

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    Леарх Гаутсон
    8 часов назад, Armun сказал:

    Анархисткая неплохая. Мэнпавер очень не помешает.

    А танки? Я хочу сделать упор на механизированные соединения.

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